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(esp: Joel Davis Herbert Vogelsang John Derbyshire Nick Heywood Russell Moore )

(this is the first meaningful and helpful conversation I have had in months and thank you very much for it. I hope you will stick with me for a bit as I work through it.)

1) Again, to repeat, so that we understand what I *need* to do, by choosing a series of concepts I am trying to deflate *and scientifically reconstruct* cooperation: our moral intuitions and the *value* of morality.

In other words I am converting from storry and intuition to algorithm and measurement. Just like all sciences have done. The difference is, that this one science has more impact on us than any other.

Which is why everyone fears it.

2) assumptions:

(a) prior to consciousness we needed only to acquire resources, stay alive, stay with our 'kind' for protection, 'alerts', and reproduction, and feel dominance or submission in order to obtain access to resources and reproduction.
(the reptilian brain phase) We developed the ability we call 'sentience'.

(b) the consequence of consciousness (modeling and self reflection) is a need for mindfulness. mindfulness was provided in our developmental eras by band(pack) and tribal(herd) life, where problems were relatively simple and all persons well known, and our status and position well understood, and the relationship between cause and consequence within our perception. This mindfulness was possible within the 'tipping point' of 150 people, or the approximate maximum product of two people over four possible generations.
(the mammalian brain phase) We developed the ability to 'wonder'. But we could perceive by observance and familiarity sufficiently to largely defend against 'folly and deceit'.

(c) As cooperation, language, the scale of cooperation, differentiation, specialization, and causality increased we developed a need to direct our minds that evolved for the purpose of tribal mindfulness to something within our ability to calculate and reason. We created various techniques by which to provide 'mindfulness' in the absence of constant empirical feedback.
(The human-mammal brain phase) We developed the ability to tell stories. These stories provide 'rough measures' in modern terms so that group calculation was possible, and that fear of uncertainty was diminished, and that (worse) we could defend against 'folly and deceit'.

(d) just as there was a higher method of reason than literary analogy in aristotelian reason, and just as aristotelian reason was 'incomplete', there is a possible higher method of *mindfulness* than Stoicism because stoicism was incomplete.
(the 'complete' human brain phase) We developed the ability to 'magnify', measure, and record, and thereby reduce the imperceptible to the perceptible and to create analogy to experience.

We are not yet fully human. Or at least, few of us are. But we have the potential to complete the transition from beast to human - and it is within our grasp.

While the mastery of fire and metal began our journey into transcendence, Aryans were the first peoples who attempted to fully transcend the beast and evolve into fully humans. And they did so by accidentally discovering deflationary truth. And then profiting from the transcendence (domestication) of the remaining human animals.

We profited from transforming rocks, then animals, then plants, then the human animal. And the evidence is clear, that it is the most profitable industry every invented by man.

3) So while I understand the need to hold onto animal spirits, it is clearly not true that we must, and the evidence is quite the opposite, that our function over the past six thousand years has been largely the eradication of animal spirits evolved during the mammalian and and the incremental replacement of them with measurement and calculation so that we provide extensions to our senses and reason sufficient to train our intuition, so that we are no longer dependent upon comforting falsehoods, and no longer vulnerable to 'folly and deceit'. royal and nave blue color collections for cocktail